Oh Lordy, I am bad! Remember those videos from psych class on the maharishi movements where people are dancing wildly and hypnotically to music (the guru leading it all)? I think it was in the late 60s or early 70s. Well, here is the new “guru” for the new millenium! Whirling dervish craziness. LOOK at those people!

I’m probably gonna have to put all this Bentley stuff on a page later and get it out of the posts; especially when I stop rubbernecking and start developing thoughtful posts dealing with issues that aren’t so pop-culture related! Eegads!

Advertisements

First hand stories are interesting to me. The previous report by the guy who recognized all the hypnotic techniques being used by Bentley was wry and funny (if you missed that, it’s here). The following account is serious and has some typos. This person apparently has visions and comes from the prophetic/charismatic side of things. I copied the story about 2/3 down since there is a LOT of back story about his gifts and other details. Some might find that interesting so for the rest of that you can read here. Also, this guy’s presentation and cultural view is pretty dramatic–not my personal cup of tea. I haven’t done ANY research into his creds or history or theology. I just think it’s an interesting first person story.

I haven’t figured out what my fascination is with this topic…maybe it’s kinda like the rubbernecking response when there is a roadside accident, or just bad roadkill. It started with my yoga research, then friend connections (as mentioned previously), but now who knows. I’m not a spooky superstitious person. I prefer a reasoned argument, some good deep thinking. Ah, well. I do read trashy novels from time to time and maybe this is related. This is all so OUT there and melodramatic and televangelistic-type hype overkill (there’s that word again). One of my very literary, intelligent, artistic, brilliant friends loves to read vampire novels. I think we all have some of that in us somewhere. In regards to religious crap, usually it just makes me sick. And partly, this does, because the poor people involved make is tragedy-comedy.

It also might be the occultic connections that fascinate me since I study that stuff. And it does have a relationship with kundalini and other interesting things. But mainly, I’ll probably just be really sad when it is all over and so many people have been thrashed by it all. By then, I’m sure I’ll be able to watch the expose on tv!

Anyways, that is my long-winded explanation for posting the following story:

You are entering in the middle of the narrative. They are in Lakeland and plan to sing and speak to the crowd and he sees the Angel Emma that Bentley talks about…

We loaded his equipment and headed back down to where Todd Bentley was holding service that evening the Lakeland center or convention center. I’m really not sure what it was called. We arrived and found the place that I felt like the father wanted us to set up. There was plenty of parking in the parking lot where I could have set up or even parked but I had received a warning earlier myself from the father instructing me to not set on foot on that property, to just open my mouth and he would fill it.
Daniel started off singing a few songs playing the guitar and people where very aware of our presence and some started gathering across the road listening. Then I took the mic after a few songs and started in by saying “you like sheep are led astray, Judgment is coming to Florida and then I don’t remember anything else I said until something happened. The anointing was so strong I felt it coming in waves so strong I thought I would not be able to stand. Then my spiritual eyes where opened and I saw an angel coming from the building that was about a block away across the parking lot. She made her way across the parking lot almost instantaneously but the spirit rose up in me and said I rebuke you Emma and I bind you to do no harm.
At that moment it was like I saw her bound by something I could not see, but it rendered her motionless other then every mussel in her body strained trying to break free. And she stayed there until I was done speaking and then I saw her no more. (more…)

I’m not surprised that the Baptists have skepticism regarding the so-called Lakeland Revival. It is interesting that people are going with an open mind and heart to see if God is going to move in their lives at Todd Bentley’s events. Yet, just as with many other “healing evangelists” that involve a lot of manipulation and splash, too many people are leaving in the same condition, or worse, if you consider their crushed spirits. It reminds me of Benny Hinn…For me, it is just sad to see. God is so much bigger than all this hype full of nothing. Why am I so aggravated by all this?

Part of the problem is that I listen to many preachers outside of my own tradition, to expand my “spiritual temperament” and learn more about God beyond my personal biases. This listening isn’t the problem, but my irritation is probably due to the fact that a certain segment of ministers are apparently friends with this circle of Bentley “revivalists” and before finding this out, I pretty much was enjoying most of these guys’ sermons…Sigh. Of course, I had some theological issues, but I can deal with that. But just accepting all this and saying that you are missing out on what God is doing by doubting any of this hype and show is pretty gross to hear.

The article below is eloquent and succinct. Well done. Much better than my personal ramblings!

FIRST-PERSON: Neither faith nor healing

Posted on Jul 11, 2008 | by William A. Dembski

FORT WORTH, Texas (BP)–Todd Bentley’s healing ministry has gained national attention. His daily meetings for the past three months in Lakeland, Fla., have attracted hundreds of thousands from all over the world. The press has begun to question Bentley’s legitimacy — Is his financial accounting above board? Are miracles really happening? I want to raise some more personal concerns.

On July 3, my wife, three children and I attended Bentley’s “impartation service” in Denton, Texas, north of Dallas. Why? We have twin 7-year-old boys, one of whom is autistic (largely nonverbal, still not fully toilet trained, serious developmental delays). Friends urged that we attend the meeting for his miraculous healing. (more…)

What is interesting to me is that kundalini keeps coming up with these so-called prophetic ministries…I haven’t been lurking in the blog world, nor have I been a purveyor of the so-called “watch-dog” blogs that are on the lookout for heresy in the church.

Last year, I had the idea to research more the use of the body in worship in Christian and other traditions. As time went on I focused this around the concept of Yoga, since it is a practice I enjoy very much (on the superficial exercise level. I’m differentiating between Yoga v. yoga at this point of my study. The Hindus say you can’t separate Yoga from its spiritual dimension and that makes sense. But obviously, we are able to use some asanas and practices without participating in Hinduism,; thus the differentiation for me with the capital letter.)

In my studies of “energy” and such, I learned a lot about Kundalini. Many mystical Christians were reporting these energetic experiences that were exactly like Kundalini awakening as described in eastern literature. They reasoned that since they were Christians it must either be of God, or else it was a natural experience inimic in our human nature. It’s the second conclusion that drew my interest.

Now as I am studying along in my area of interest these “people” keep coming up…people like Todd Bentley and others associated with so-called “revival” in the world of Christiandom. My first time hearing about these unusual physical manifestations of the “spirit” were in the so-called Toronto Blessing. Back then, once I heard that people were barking like dogs, getting all out of control and that certain psychological control techniques were being used by leaders, I dismissed it as counterfeit out of hand and didn’t think more about it.

Fast forward to last year and my Yoga v. yoga study. Lo and behold, I’m finding Yogic Kundalini awakening ‘symptoms’ described in Christian circles. These are all pentecostal circles that are impacting lots of other non-pentecostal Christians that are wanting more of God in an experiential way. Again, I didn’t care so much. Charlatans are everywhere, the occult is everywhere…so what. But then MY FRIENDS started to get involved. First it was a transition to healing ministry (all good), then more prayer intercession (again, all good), then going to a house church with the use of prophetic gifts (ok, if the leadership is biblically sound and mature, shouldn’t be an issue), then SIGNS AND WONDERS, and ANNOINTINGS and IMPARTATIONS…my friends, all mature Christians, are being exposed to people like Todd Bently and a whole bunch of unbiblical manifestations of the “spirit” (not God’s spirit, often) because the ministry and church leaders that they are interacting with are “going after” these so-called out pouring of God’s spirit presenting by so-called revivals…

I’m so irritated.

I was just minding my own business, studying a theological interest when bam! KUNDALINI EVERYWHERE!!

I decide to write about it a little bit and discover that others are doing research on the SAME THING, finding the EXACT SAME CONNECTIONS.

Merely coincidence?

I think not.

So. Here we are.

I’m annoyed, people are getting deceived, my friends are potentially getting “influenced”…grrrr.

The good news is that I can post links to all these people that have done the hard work of research and actually writing intelligible articles on these topics. I don’t have to reinvent the wheel.

I was NOT expecting my research on Yoga to take me into the so-called “Lakeland Revival”. This is a complete and annoying surprise to me.

For a good article on this topic with well-done research into the occultic connections between all these topics see http://www.deceptionbytes.com/Todd-Bentleys-Fire-of-Kundalini

I guess I will link to others’ research and write about my own personal interactions and thoughts on these more current event type topics. My own research on Yoga will be posted as it evolves. Now i seem to have lots of questions…